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vapors |
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March 09, 2010 10:10:53am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
What a great read – thanks once again. Long before the Dead really grabbed hold of me, my brother and me were totally enraptured by Cream. Clapton was one of my earliest rock heroes. And I have had that photo of Jerry and Eric (clipped from Relix I think) on my wall for many years.
Wish I had access to more recordings of Michael Bloomfield, from what I have heard he was really good.
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William Tell |
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March 09, 2010 11:10:32am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
I posted my reply over at Hook to LiA, with more of the stories my bros told me of the SF music scene, and BloomF was one they idolized...they always spoke of how he dis'd the SF bands and such, and how much better he was...not to feed into the DEAD bashing, and of course, we learned to appreciate them and the other SF bands in their own way, but it was interesting to hear what some of the more accomplished musical types thought of the scene at the time...I think this heavily influenced my older bros to steer me more toward CREAM and BlFaith and others, and never really got why I went ape for the DEAD when they gave me all this other stuff...
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Diamondhead |
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March 09, 2010 11:52:59am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Ditto. Bloomfield had Jewish soul. :) Too bad he was a junkie.
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William Tell |
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March 09, 2010 12:40:05pm |
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GratefulDead
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Did you see that footage of EBishop at the closing of the Fillmore? The guy was amazing...
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Diamondhead |
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March 09, 2010 06:35:54pm |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Long time ago. Yeah, I thought he was real good, but within a narrower range. I don't see him as much of a leader as I see others.
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Diamondhead |
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March 09, 2010 11:50:39am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
IMO Bloomfield was better at the blues. I saw him with the Electric Flag and other gigs in SF. He just didn't have the gift of popularity that Clapton has. Too bad he was a junkie. Some make it and others don't.
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William Tell |
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March 09, 2010 12:45:41pm |
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GratefulDead
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Hey DH--I know I don't have the history that my brothers gave me just right, but they always spoke of PButterfield as having "brought" EBishop and MBloomf "to the public eye" and I guess from what I've read, there's some historical anecdotes to back that up...anyhow, those three were the ones they spoke of that having seen them in SF and elsewhere, that they said were so much better than the DEAD, or the other SF bands...I never really got the "dis'ing" of the DOORS, which as noted by LiA in the CREAM quotes was rampant, and esp among the Chicago based blues boys it seemed, and though I understand many don't go for them (it's been discussed here many times I think), I thought that they really had something, and it was more of a NoCal vs SoCal thing that prevented them from being accepted by mainstream (or counter culture "real" musical sorts)...
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vapors |
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March 10, 2010 02:01:12pm |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Yes thanks. That bio and the site discographies showed me something I’ve wanted to know for a long time.
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William Tell |
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March 10, 2010 08:22:22am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Thanks!
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Diamondhead |
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March 09, 2010 06:29:28pm |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
As I recollect, the album is East West. So yes, Bishop and Bloomfield played in his band and the album was very cool and successful. That begat the Electric Flag, which begat Super Session blah blah blah. I don't think the blues devotees of that time did psychedelia too well, so that could account for some of the opinions. They was purists. As far as the Doors went, they just reveled in their unique strangeness and I think the Cream guys just didn't understand. Of all music from that time, the Doors and Hendrix are two that are still in major rotation in my ears.
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William Tell |
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March 09, 2010 06:40:48pm |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
Have you heard the Felt Forum shows, 1/17-18/70 by the Doors? Rhino I think put it out recently...friend sent me some of it, and it's great quality recording wise, pretty good sets too...Perhaps a little "late" in their trajectory, but check it out if you have a chance...my oldest son, the bluegrass/folksy one, loved them when younger--by far his fav band for a few yrs.
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Diamondhead |
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March 09, 2010 09:58:55pm |
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Thanks WT. I just might check that out. Just think, I could have seen them at the Whiskey on Sunset. And didn't. :(
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Tidewater four ten O nine |
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March 10, 2010 02:07:16am |
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Re: Cream and the Dead |
"trajectory" - great word to describe the rise, levelling-out and subsequent fall of (amongst other things) an act.
Like it.
Get your case of beer for that one.
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